Hip, Valley & Jack Rafter Guide
A data-driven comparison of hip rafter, valley rafter, and jack rafter geometry — length formulas, angle calculations, and compound cuts for hip roofs and intersecting roofs.
Diagram: Plan view (left) shows how hip rafters converge at the ridge from each corner. Isometric view (right) shows the 3D relationship between hip, common, valley, and jack rafters.
Hip vs. Valley vs. Common Rafter: The Full Comparison Matrix
Hip rafters, valley rafters, and common rafters share the same geometric DNA — they're all hypotenuses of right triangles — but they diverge in plan-view angle, load path, and cutting complexity. The comparison matrix below quantifies these differences across eight critical dimensions, with precise measurements and tolerances for a standard 6/12 pitch roof at 8-foot run.
| Dimension | Hip Rafter | Valley Rafter | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Plan View Angle | 45° (standard) | 45° (standard) | Equal for symmetric roofs; variable for bastard hips/valleys |
| Length Formula | √(Run² + Ridge² + Rise²)⚠️ | √(Run² + ValleySetback² + Rise²)⚠️ | Identical structure; only the perpendicular offset differs |
| Top Cut Angle | 90° − Pitch (plumb) | 90° − Pitch (plumb) | Both meet the ridge at the same pitch-dependent angle |
| Bottom Cut Angle | Pitch (seat on wall) | Pitch (seat on wall) | Both seat at the same pitch angle |
| Compound Angle | Hip angle + Pitch angle⚠️ | Valley angle + Pitch angle⚠️ | Hip: 45° + pitch; Valley: 45° + pitch for standard cases |
| Typical Size | 2×10 to 2×12 (16" OC) | 2×10 to 2×12 (16" OC) | Both require larger lumber than common rafters due to doubled load path |
| Jack Rafter Count | 16–24 per hip corner⚠️ | 16–24 per valley corner⚠️ | Count depends on hip run ÷ jack spacing |
| Cutting Difficulty | ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (4/5)⚠️ | ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5/5)⚠️ | Valley cuts are harder due to inside corner geometry and overlapping cuts |
Standard hip roofs with equal pitches require only 4 hip rafters + jacks. Cutting is more forgiving with symmetric geometry. On-site waste is typically 15–20% lower than valley work.
Valley cuts are compound — the inside corner creates overlapping bevels that require test-fitting before batch cutting. 25–30% material overage is recommended. Not recommended for novice carpenters on first attempt.
Each jack rafter has a unique length. Mistakes compound: if you mis-calculate the jack setback by 1", every subsequent jack in that quadrant will be wrong. Always layout the full jack set on one board first, then verify before batch cutting.
Hip Rafter Length: The 3D Diagonal Formula
A common rafter is a 2D hypotenuse — it lives in a vertical plane. A hip rafter is a 3D hypotenuse — it lives in a diagonal plane that combines horizontal run, horizontal offset, and vertical rise. The general formula for any hip rafter (standard or bastard) is the three-dimensional extension of the Pythagorean theorem:
where Run = horizontal wall-to-ridge distance, Ridge = perpendicular offset at ridge level, Rise = vertical height
For a standard hip roof (45° hip angle), the Ridge offset equals the Run, simplifying to: Hip Length = √(2 × Run² + Rise²) = Run × √(2 + tan²(Pitch)). For a 6/12 pitch (26.57°) with 8 ft run: Hip Length = 8 × √(2 + 0.25) = 8 × √2.25 = 8 × 1.5 = 12.0 ft exactly.
🧮 Hip & Valley Raft Calculator
Hip Rafter Length Reference Table (8' Common Run)
Precalculated hip rafter lengths, drops, and angles for common pitches with 8-foot common rafter run and standard 45° hip angle.
| Pitch | Common Length | Hip Length | Hip Drop (in) | Hip Angle |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/12 | 8'-2" | 11'-4-3/8" | 1.00" | 45.0° |
| 4/12 | 8'-4-5/8" | 11'-7-7/8" | 1.41" | 45.0° |
| 5/12 | 8'-6-3/4" | 11'-11-5/8" | 1.83" | 45.0° |
| 6/12 | 8'-9-3/8" | 12'-3-5/16" | 2.34" | 45.0° |
| 8/12 | 9'-7/16" | 13'-0-1/16" | 3.33" | 45.0° |
| 10/12 | 10'-4-1/8" | 13'-10-7/16" | 4.42" | 45.0° |
| 12/12 | 11'-3-3/4" | 14'-7-11/16" | 5.66" | 45.0° |
How to Calculate the Length of a Valley Rafter
A valley rafter is the mirror of a hip rafter: it runs from an interior corner (where two roof planes meet in a trough) up to the ridge intersection, instead of from an exterior corner. Learning how to calculate the length of a valley rafter therefore reuses the same 3D diagonal used for hips, with the valley setback replacing the ridge offset.
Step 1: Mark the interior corner and the ridge intersection point in plan view.
Step 2: Measure the run — horizontal distance from the corner to the intersection (main roof plane).
Step 3: Measure the valley setback — perpendicular horizontal distance from the main ridge to the valley ridge.
Step 4: Rise = Run × (Pitch ÷ 12).
Step 5: Solve the 3D diagonal. For a standard 45° valley (setback = run): Valley Length = Run × √(2 + tan²(Pitch)).
How to Calculate Board Length for a Hip Roof Rafter
The theoretical hip rafter length from the 3D diagonal formula is the line length — measured from the corner to the ridge. The actual board length you pull from the lumber pile must also include the overhang, the cheek-cut waste, and the plumb setback, minus the ridge deduction. Learning how to calculate board length for a hip roof rafter therefore means stacking four additions on top of the line length:
Board Length = Hip Line Length + Overhang (along rafter) + Cheek-Cut Waste + Plumb Setback − Ridge Deduction
• Overhang along rafter = Horizontal Overhang ÷ cos(Pitch Angle) (same as a common rafter).
• Cheek-cut waste = Hip Depth × tan(45° plan angle) ≈ Hip Depth for a standard 45° hip — added at each beveled end so the compound cut has stock to bear on.
• Plumb setback = Hip Depth × tan(Hip Plumb Angle), measured back from the ridge plumb line.
• Ridge deduction = half the ridge board thickness measured parallel to the hip plumb cut.
The same board-length logic applies to valley rafters — both ends carry compound cheek cuts, so add cheek-cut waste at both the ridge and the eave intersection.
Hip Rafter Angles: Compound Cuts Explained
The hip rafter sits at the intersection of three planes: the roof slope plane, the wall plane, and the hip plan-view plane (45° rotation). This creates compound cut angles that are more complex than simple plumb/seat cuts on common rafters. Every hip rafter has four critical angles that must be set correctly on your circular saw or table saw.
Top cut (red) = 90° − Pitch. Bottom cut (green) = Pitch. Hip angle (blue) = 45° for standard hips. Cheek cut (dashed) = parallel to hip plan angle.
Hip Rafter Cut Angles (6/12 Pitch)
Compound Angle Setup Guide
On a circular saw, set the bevel to the pitch angle (26.57° for 6/12) for the plumb cut. On a table saw, use a taper jig set to the hip plan angle (45°) and adjust the blade bevel to the pitch angle to create the compound miter for the hip/valley end.
Circular Saw: Bevel = Pitch Angle, guide fence parallel to rafter edge
Table Saw: Blade bevel = Pitch Angle, miter gauge = Hip Plan Angle
Angle of Attack: Support the rafter with a tall fence to prevent kickback
Jack Rafter Lengths: Proportional Geometry
Jack rafters are the short rafters that fill the space between the wall plate and the hip/valley rafter. Their lengths decrease proportionally as they approach the hip corner. The key insight: each jack rafter's length is proportional to its distance from the common rafter. This means you can calculate all jack lengths with a single master formula and a scaling factor.
Each jack rafter (blue, dashed) decreases proportionally in length as it approaches the hip corner (red). Jack #1 is longest, Jack #8 is shortest.
Jack Rafter Lengths (6/12 Pitch, 16\" OC, 8' Run)
| Jack # | Setback | Length | Cut Angle |
|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | 1'-4" | 1'-5-13/16" | 63.4°° |
| #2 | 2'-8" | 2'-11-5/8" | 63.4°° |
| #3 | 4'-0" | 4'-5-7/16" | 63.4°° |
| #4 | 5'-4" | 5'-11-1/16" | 63.4°° |
| #5 | 6'-8" | 7'-4-7/8" | 63.4°° |
| #6 | 8'-0" | 8'-10-11/16" | 63.4°° |
| #7 | 9'-4" | 10'-4-5/16" | 63.4°° |
| #8 | 10'-8" | 11'-10-1/8" | 63.4°° |
Key insight: Jack rafter lengths are NOT random. If you know the common rafter length (8' 9-3/8\") and the hip run (8'), you can derive every jack length using the proportional formula: Jack Length = Common Length × (Jack Setback / Hip Run). This is why systematic layout — calculating all jacks from one master ratio — eliminates cutting errors across the entire hip quadrant.
How to Calculate Jack Rafter Angles
Jack rafter angles combine the common-rafter plumb and seat cuts with an extra cheek cut where the jack meets the hip or valley. To calculate jack rafter angles you need three values:
• Plumb cut angle = 90° − Pitch Angle (same as a common rafter, set at the ridge end).
• Seat cut angle = Pitch Angle (the birdsmouth, same as a common rafter).
• Cheek cut angle = 45° for a standard hip/valley on a 45° plan angle. For a bastard hip, Cheek Angle = arctan(tan(Pitch) × cos(Plan Angle)).
Valley jacks use the same three angles, but the cheek cut bevel direction is reversed because the valley rafter sits in a trough rather than on a ridge.
Hip Rafter Drop: The Hidden Vertical Offset
The hip rafter's drop is the vertical distance from the top edge of a common rafter to the top edge of the hip rafter at the wall plate. This exists because the hip rafter is rotated 45° in plan view — its effective rate of rise is slower than a common rafter's for the same pitch. The drop must be accounted for in your cutting list, or the hip rafter will not seat properly on the wall plate.
Hip Drop Formula
For 6/12 pitch (26.57°) and 8' run: Hip Drop = 96\" × 0.4472 × 0.2929 = 12.52\". This means the hip rafter's bottom edge sits 12.52\" below the common rafter's top edge at the wall.
Why It Matters
If you forget the hip drop, the hip rafter will ride up on the wall plate and push the ridge up by the same amount. This creates a visible ridge sag, throws the eave line out of level, and introduces stress concentrations at the hip/valley connections that can lead to rafter cracking under snow load.
Hip Drop by Pitch (per foot of common rafter run)
Hip drop increases with pitch. At 12/12 (45° pitch), the drop is nearly 3 inches per foot of run — a critical dimension that must be factored into your cut list.
Bastard Hip Rafters: Non-Standard Pitch Geometries
A bastard hip (also called an unequal hip) occurs when the two roof planes meeting at the hip have different pitches — for example, a main roof at 6/12 pitch and a rear addition at 4/12 pitch. This breaks the standard 45° hip angle, and the calculation requires resolving the compound geometry from first principles rather than using the simplified √2 formulas. The process involves three steps: first, resolve the hip plan angle by calculating the intersection of the two roof slopes in plan view; second, compute the effective hip pitch by compounding the two roof pitches; third, derive the hip length using the general 3D diagonal with the corrected ridge offset.
💡 Bastard Hip Procedure: Step 1 — Resolve hip plan angle: HipAngle = arctan(Tan(Pitch_A) / Tan(Pitch_B)) in plan view. Step 2 — Calculate effective hip pitch: EffectivePitch = √(Pitch_A² + Pitch_B²). Step 3 — Compute length: L = √(Run² + RidgeOffset² + Rise²) where RidgeOffset = Run / tan(HipAngle).
Worked Example: Bastard Hip (6/12 Main + 4/12 Addition)
Scenario: Main roof 6/12 pitch, addition 4/12 pitch, 6 ft run on main roof side.
Step 1: Hip plan angle = arctan(Tan(26.57°) / Tan(18.43°)) = arctan(0.5 / 0.333) = arctan(1.5) = 56.31°
Step 2: Effective hip pitch = √(6² + 4²) / 12 = √52 / 12 = 7.21/12 = 30.26°
Step 3: Ridge offset = 72\" / tan(56.31°) = 72\" / 1.5 = 48\" = 4'-0\"
Step 4: Rise = 72\" × tan(26.57°) = 72\" × 0.5 = 36\" = 3'-0\"
Step 5: Hip length = √(72² + 48² + 36²) = √(5184 + 2304 + 1296) = √8784 = 93.72\" = 7'-9-3/4\"
Intersecting Roofs: Hip and Valley Combination
Intersecting roofs (L-shaped or T-shaped floor plans) are the most complex common rafter geometry because they produce both hip and valley rafters at the roof intersections. Every interior corner generates a valley, and every exterior corner generates a hip. The critical first step is identifying the ridge intersection point — this is where the hip rafter, valley rafter, and both common rafter ridges converge. All lengths flow from this single point.
For intersecting roofs, the general calculation workflow follows four precise steps:
Locate the ridge intersection
Mark the exact point where the main ridge and addition ridge meet in plan view. This is the convergence point for all hip and valley rafters. Measure the horizontal distance from each wall to this point separately for the main roof and addition.
Calculate common rafters for each plane
Treat each roof plane independently. Calculate common rafter lengths using the standard Pythagorean formula for each plane's run and pitch. The common rafter for the addition may be shorter or longer than the main roof rafter.
Calculate hip and valley rafters
For each hip: use the 3D diagonal with Run from the corner to the intersection, Ridge as the perpendicular offset to the intersection, and Rise at the intersection height. For valleys: same formula but the ValleySetback replaces Ridge.
Calculate jack rafters on each side
Jack rafters on each side of the hip/valley follow the proportional method. Jack Length = Common Length × (JackSetback / TotalSetback). Each side (left hip, right hip, valley side) has its own jack progression.
Hip Roof Framing Calculator: Framing a Hip Roof End to End
A hip roof framing calculator bundles every number a hip roof needs into one pass — common rafter lengths, hip rafter length and drop, jack rafter progression, and the compound cut angles. This guide works the same way: work through the sections in order and you produce the same cut list a dedicated hip roof framing calculator outputs. The end-to-end sequence for framing a full hip roof:
Establish the king common rafters
Measure the span at each corner, subtract the ridge thickness, and compute the four king common rafters that run from each building corner to the ridge ends. These fix the ridge height and become the reference every other member is cut from.
Set the ridge length and height
Hip ridge length = building length − building width (for a regular hip). Ridge height = king common rise. Stand the ridge on four temporary posts and brace it plumb before any hip or jack work begins.
Cut and hang the hips
Compute hip length with the 3D diagonal (Hip Run × 17 coefficient for a regular 45° plan hip), apply the hip drop so the hips plane flush with the commons, and cut the cheek bevels. Hang each hip from the ridge end to the corner plate.
Fill the jacks from the corners in
Jack rafters shorten by the jack increment (common length ÷ rafters per side) for each bay toward the hip. Lay out the backing angles on the hip faces, then hang jacks in pairs working from the king commons toward the corner so each pair self-checks.
Verify planes and overhangs
String the eave lines and the hip lines. On a regular hip roof every surface must plane together — any rock in a hip face means a drop or setback error to fix before sheathing.
💡 Framing tip: Production hip crews cut the entire jack set before standing a single member. Because jacks shorten by a fixed increment per bay, one mis-computed increment would otherwise repeat twenty times — verifying the increment against the first two bays before gang-cutting is the single highest-leverage check in hip roof framing.
Valley Rafter Calculator: Valley Length and Cuts
A valley rafter calculator answers three questions at an internal roof intersection: how long the valley runs, what the plumb/cheek cut angles are, and how the valley jacks step back from it. The interactive hip-and-valley tool at the top of this guide computes all three — set the mode to valley, enter each plane's run and pitch, and the valley section of the report returns:
Valley length (regular valley)
A regular valley sits at 45° in plan, so its effective pitch is 17-in-12 — the same 17/12 diagonal a regular hip uses. Multiply the valley run (corner to ridge intersection measured in plan) by 1.4736 for the line length, then apply the setback and tail additions like a common rafter.
Valley cut angles
Valley drop = set so jacks plane flush
The cheek bevels on a valley face opposite directions (the valley receives rafters from two sides), and the valley drop is the mirror-image problem of hip drop — the valley must sink so the jack birdsmouths plane with both roof faces. The tool reports the exact drop for your pitch.
Valley jacks shorten toward the valley instead of the hip, and their setback is measured from the valley centerline — the same proportional method as hip jacks with the valley setback substituted. For the full valley jack progression table, use the interactive calculator above and read the jack column of the report.
Hip Rafter Size & Thickness: Structural Requirements
Hip rafters carry more load per linear foot than common rafters because they collect the load from two rafter planes and funnel it to a single point at the ridge. Building codes typically require hip rafters to be the same size or one size larger than the common rafters they support. The table below provides reference sizes for common hip roof configurations.
| Common Rafter Size | Hip Rafter Min Size | Hip Rafter Recommended | Max Hip Run |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2x6 @ 16" OC | 2x8 | 2x8 | 10 ft |
| 2x6 @ 24" OC | 2x8 | 2x10 | 8 ft |
| 2x8 @ 16" OC | 2x10 | 2x10 | 14 ft |
| 2x8 @ 24" OC | 2x10 | 2x12 | 12 ft |
| 2x10 @ 16" OC | 2x12 | 2x12 | 18 ft |
| 2x10 @ 24" OC | 2x12 | — * | 16 ft |
* Engineered lumber (LVL) or multiple plies required for hip runs exceeding 16 ft. These are educational reference values; verify with your local building code and structural engineer.
Critical Pitfalls: Avoidable Hip Rafter Mistakes
Hip roof framing has specific failure modes that are unique to hip and valley geometry. These pitfalls account for the majority of rework on hip roof projects, and most are preventable with pre-cut calculations and dry-fit verification.
Forgetting Hip Drop
Risk: Hip rafter rides up 1–3 inches on the wall plate, causing the ridge to sag visibly and introducing stress concentrations at the hip-to-ridge connection that can lead to rafter cracking under snow load. Always calculate hip drop per pitch and transfer it to the birdsmouth layout.
Incorrect Hip Plan Angle
Risk: Using 45° for all hips is only valid for equal-pitch roofs. On bastard hips, the plan angle can range from 20° to 70°. A 5° error in plan angle translates to a 3–6 inch error in hip length on an 8-foot run. Always resolve the hip plan angle mathematically before cutting.
Uniform Jack Rafter Lengths
Risk: Treating all jack rafters the same length. Each jack has a unique length that decreases proportionally toward the hip. If you cut all jacks the same length, either the ones near the common rafter will be too short or the ones near the hip will bulge outward. Always lay out the full jack set on one board first before batch cutting.
Undersized Hip Rafters
Risk: Using the same size as common rafters. Hip rafters carry 1.4–2× the load of a common rafter because they collect from two planes. Running a 2x6 hip on a roof with 2x8 common rafters will result in visible deflection at the ridge peak and potential shear failure at the birdsmouth under snow load.
Roofing Calculator for Hip Roof: Materials & Area
This guide focuses on the rafter geometry and cuts of a hip roof. When you need a roofing calculator for hip roof materials — total roof area across the four sloped planes, shingle bundle count, underlayment rolls, and hip/ridge cap linear footage — use the dedicated roofing calculator hub, which converts a hip roof plan into a complete materials takeoff. Run the hip rafter calculator above first to lay out the framing, then switch to the roofing calculator for the finished roof quantities.
Frequently Asked Questions
How do you calculate hip rafter length?▼
Hip rafter length is calculated using the diagonal formula: L = √(Run² + Ridge² + Rise²), where Run is the horizontal distance from wall to center, Ridge is the horizontal distance perpendicular to the run (the hip setback), and Rise is the vertical height. For a standard hip roof (45° hip), the hip rafter length = Common Rafter Run × √2, and the hip drop (vertical distance from common rafter line to hip rafter) = Common Rafter Run × (1 − 1/√2).
What is a hip rafter angle?▼
The hip rafter has two critical angles: the hip angle (the angle between the hip rafter and the common rafter run, typically 45° for equal-pitch hip roofs) and the plumb/seat angles. The hip rafter's top cut angle (where it meets the ridge) = 90° − Pitch Angle, and the bottom cut (where it meets the wall) = Pitch Angle. For a 6/12 pitch hip roof, the hip angle is 45°, the top cut is 63.43°, and the bottom cut is 26.57°.
How do you calculate valley rafter length?▼
Valley rafter length uses the same 3D diagonal formula as hip rafter: L = √(Run² + ValleySetback² + Rise²). The valley setback is the horizontal distance from the main ridge to the valley ridge, measured perpendicular to the main run. For a standard valley at 45° intersection: Valley Length = Main Run × √2. The valley rafter also has compound angles where it meets the main ridge and the valley ridge.
What is the difference between hip rafter and valley rafter?▼
Hip rafters run from the corner of a building up to the ridge, forming the hip of a hip roof (external angle). Valley rafters run from an interior corner upward to the ridge intersection, forming the valley where two roof slopes meet at an internal angle. Both use the same 3D geometry formula, but hip rafters typically extend from outside corners while valley rafters extend from inside corners where roofs intersect.
How do you calculate jack rafter lengths?▼
Jack rafters are the short rafters that run from the wall plate to the hip or valley rafter. Each jack rafter has a different length, calculated by proportional geometry: Jack Length = Common Rafter Length × (Jack Setback / Total Hip Setback). The first jack rafter is adjacent to the common rafter (longest), and each successive jack gets shorter until reaching a zero-length common rafter position at the hip/valley intersection.
What is a hip rafter drop?▼
Hip rafter drop is the vertical distance from the common rafter's top edge to the hip rafter's top edge at the wall plate. This occurs because the hip rafter is rotated 45° in plan view, so its effective rise per foot of horizontal run is less than the common rafter's. For a 6/12 pitch hip roof: Hip Drop = Run × (1 − 1/√2) × tan(26.57°) ≈ Run × 0.293 × 0.5 = Run × 0.1465 ft/ft of run.
How do you size a hip rafter?▼
Hip rafters are typically sized the same or one size larger than common rafters in the same roof. The hip rafter carries more load per linear foot because it collects the loads from two rafter planes. Check local building codes: the hip rafter's required size depends on span, species, spacing, and load. As a rule of thumb, if common rafters are 2x8 at 16" OC, the hip rafter should be 2x10 at maximum.
What is a bastard hip rafter?▼
A bastard hip rafter (also called an unequal hip) occurs when the two roof pitches are different (e.g., main roof at 6/12 pitch, hip roof at 4/12 pitch). In this case, the hip angle is not 45° and the calculation requires resolving the compound angle. The hip length formula becomes: L = √(Run² + (RidgeOffset × cos(PitchDifference))² + Rise²), where RidgeOffset is adjusted for the unequal pitches.
How do you calculate rafter length on intersecting roofs?▼
Intersecting roofs (L-shaped or T-shaped) produce both hip and valley rafters at the intersection. First, identify the ridge intersection point. The valley rafter runs from the interior wall corner to the ridge intersection. The hip rafter runs from the exterior corner to the same intersection. Calculate each using the 3D diagonal formula: L = √(a² + b² + c²), where a = wall-to-intersection run, b = ridge perpendicular distance, c = rise at intersection.
What is the hip rafter formula?▼
The core hip rafter formula for a standard 45° hip roof: Hip Rafter Length = Common Rafter Run × √2. For a 10-foot run: Hip Length = 10 × 1.4142 = 14.14 ft = 14' 1-3/4". For non-standard hips, use the general 3D diagonal: L = √(Run² + Ridge² + Rise²) where Ridge = Run × tan(Hip Angle in plan).
How to calculate the length of a valley rafter?▼
To calculate the length of a valley rafter, use the same 3D diagonal formula as a hip rafter but with the valley setback replacing the ridge offset: Valley Rafter Length = √(Run² + ValleySetback² + Rise²). The step-by-step procedure: (1) identify the interior corner where the two roof planes meet and mark the ridge intersection point; (2) measure the run from that corner to the ridge intersection (horizontal, in the main roof plane); (3) measure the valley setback — the perpendicular horizontal distance from the main ridge to the valley ridge; (4) compute the rise at the intersection, Rise = Run × (Pitch ÷ 12); (5) solve the 3D diagonal. For a standard 45° valley where the setback equals the run, this simplifies to Valley Length = Run × √(2 + tan²(Pitch)). The valley rafter also carries compound cheek cuts where it meets both the main ridge and the intersecting ridge, unlike a common rafter's single plumb cut.
How to calculate board length for a hip roof rafter?▼
Board length for a hip roof rafter = hip line length + overhang (along the rafter) + cheek-cut waste + plumb setback − ridge deduction. The hip line length comes from the 3D diagonal formula √(Run² + Setback² + Rise²); the overhang is the horizontal overhang divided by cos(pitch); cheek-cut waste equals roughly the hip depth at each beveled end for a 45° hip; the plumb setback is hip depth × tan(hip plumb angle); and the ridge deduction is half the ridge board thickness parallel to the plumb cut. For an 8' run at 6/12 with a 12" overhang on a 2x8 hip, the board length works out to about 13' 5-1/2" — always round up to the next even lumber length when ordering.
How to calculate jack rafter angles?▼
Jack rafter angles need three cuts: a plumb cut (90° − pitch angle) at the ridge, a seat cut (pitch angle) at the birdsmouth — both identical to a common rafter — plus a cheek cut where the jack meets the hip or valley. For a standard 45° hip, the cheek cut angle is 45°. For a bastard hip on a non-45° plan angle, Cheek Angle = arctan(tan(pitch) × cos(plan angle)). Set the circular saw bevel to the cheek angle and cut along the plumb line so the jack's beveled face bears flush against the side of the hip. Valley jacks use the same three angles but reverse the bevel direction because the valley sits in a trough.
Is this a hip rafter calculator?▼
Yes. The hip rafter calculator embedded above takes your common run, roof pitch, and hip plan angle (45° for a standard hip roof) and returns the hip rafter line length, hip drop, cheek-cut angle, and jack rafter progression — all from the 3D diagonal formula L = √(Run² + Setback² + Rise²). Enter your run, pitch, and hip angle, and the hip rafter calculator outputs every cut needed for a hip or valley roof in feet-inches-fraction format.
Can this page work as a gable roof calculator for hip vs gable comparison?▼
This page focuses on hip and valley rafter geometry — the diagonal rafters that appear when a roof has hips or valleys instead of a simple gable. A gable roof has only common rafters (no hips or valleys), so a gable roof calculator is really just a common rafter calculator plus a truss count — use the main Rafter Calculator for the rafter length and cuts, and the Roof Truss Calculator for the truss count and package cost. If you are comparing a gable vs a hip roof for the same building footprint, a hip roof has four sloped planes (versus two for a gable), needs hip rafters at the corners, and adds roughly 25–40% more roof area and rafter material — the Hip vs. Valley vs. Common Rafter section above breaks down which rafters each roof type needs.
What is a hip roof framing calculator?▼
A hip roof framing calculator produces the complete cut list for an entire hip roof in one pass — the four king common rafters, hip rafter lengths with drop and cheek bevels, ridge length and height, and the full jack rafter progression for every bay. This guide works as that calculator: the embedded tool above returns the hip and jack numbers, and the Hip Roof Framing Calculator section walks the five-step sequence (king commons → ridge → hips → jacks → plane check) that turns those numbers into a framed roof.
How does a valley rafter calculator work?▼
A valley rafter calculator applies the same 3D diagonal as the hip formula — Valley Length = √(Run² + ValleySetback² + Rise²) — but at the 45° internal intersection the valley's effective pitch is 17-in-12, so a regular valley simplifies to Valley Run × 1.4736. It also returns the two opposite-direction cheek bevels, the valley drop that lets jack birdsmouths plane flush on both faces, and the valley jack setbacks measured from the valley centerline. Set the embedded tool above to valley mode, enter each plane's run and pitch, and the report lists all of these values in feet-inches-fraction.
Need instant hip rafter calculations?
Use our Main Rafter Calculator for common rafters, or the interactive hip/valley calculator above for instant hip rafter length, valley rafter angle, and jack rafter geometry calculations.
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